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« on: November 25, 2010, 11:55:12 AM »

Prey lets you keep track of your phone or laptop at all times, and will help you find it if it ever gets lost or stolen. It's lightweight, open source software, and free for anyone to use. And it just works.

Basically you install a tiny agent in your phone, which silently waits for a remote signal to wake up and work its magic.

This signal is sent either from the Internet or through an SMS message, and allows you to gather information regarding the device's location, hardware and network status, and optionally trigger specific actions on it.

It is free for up to three devices.

For more information go to http://preyproject.com/.
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2011, 01:48:09 PM »

Thus this app will run forever in background waiting for a message ? This will use a lot of battery, will it not ?
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2011, 08:28:04 PM »

Thus this app will run forever in background waiting for a message ? This will use a lot of battery, will it not ?


Actually, it should use very little battery. Major battery drainers are cell radio, screen and processor. The process for checking is just a simple timed wakelock and and a search in the messages index for the matching criteria.

To borrow from Tropic Thunder, even a nutless monkey can do that.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 06:30:59 AM »

I tried it out, but didn't manage to get the "Alarm" feature working. I'd like that, to help find the phone under a sofa.

Also the first time I sent it the SMS 'wake up' message, the phone reset :-/

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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 12:08:50 PM »

the phone reset :-/

Really ? ! You lost everything not backupped ?
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 12:18:31 PM »

the phone reset :-/

Really ? ! You lost everything not backupped ?

No, no... it just rebooted, is all.

(Still a bad sign, but nothing lost.)
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 07:48:06 PM »

Well, that's what you get for trusting an app to do your work for you Tongue

But in real scenarios, a quick factory wipe after they steal your phone would've removed the app. There is no safety in it. I can think of a few ways to prevent such an app from ever getting started in the first place. But then, I practically know the Desire inside out...

Except for the programming things, of course Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 03:36:15 AM »



The reset wasn't intentional, I wasn't trying to demonstrate the self-wipe working. It just crashed and rebooted by itself.

I don't follow your comment though:

Well, that's what you get for trusting an app to do your work for you Tongue

If your device is lost, you can't "do the work" yourself, you kind of have to trust something to do the wipe for you as you're not around  Smiley


But in real scenarios, a quick factory wipe after they steal your phone would've removed the app. There is no safety in it. I can think of a few ways to prevent such an app from ever getting started in the first place. But then, I practically know the Desire inside out...


The idea of the wipe is to remove your personal content, so if the person who stole it does a factory reset, then fine, they've done that part for me! (If they also format SD card...)

And yeah, I'm certain an advanced thief could do anything they liked, but that's not the issue really.

(Obviously you'd try the can-you-get-the-device-back approach first, but if you give up, a remote-wipe is a good plan.)

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2011, 03:49:13 AM »

 
The reset wasn't intentional, I wasn't trying to demonstrate the self-wipe working. It just crashed and rebooted by itself.

I don't follow your comment though:

Well, that's what you get for trusting an app to do your work for you Tongue

If your device is lost, you can't "do the work" yourself, you kind of have to trust something to do the wipe for you as you're not around  Smiley


But in real scenarios, a quick factory wipe after they steal your phone would've removed the app. There is no safety in it. I can think of a few ways to prevent such an app from ever getting started in the first place. But then, I practically know the Desire inside out...


The idea of the wipe is to remove your personal content, so if the person who stole it does a factory reset, then fine, they've done that part for me! (If they also format SD card...)

And yeah, I'm certain an advanced thief could do anything they liked, but that's not the issue really.

(Obviously you'd try the can-you-get-the-device-back approach first, but if you give up, a remote-wipe is a good plan.)

 Nick


Exactly. I was speaking with dripping sarcasm on the first one... I could be construed to say that if you lost your phone, you should personally hunt down the thief and deliver justice; lock, stock and twin barrels.

On the other hand, all information that's worth money is in my head (still young enough to be naive about it Tongue ) or locked up tight somewhere no-one can access (that sometimes include meself, so losing the phone means the phone is the most valuable thing lost.

Either way, it is a good app, but I have never tried it before, and from what I understand about Desire software, it might not really work.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2011, 12:01:32 PM »

The folk at project prey are working on figuring out why the software does not work as expected.

If you're willing to send them debug info they are willing to analyse it.

The topic dealing with the subject is at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/prey-security/0fo10alAdqw/NqjsD-UQI9kJ.

If you're reading this considerably after it was posted, you might want to perform a search for a more recent update on the subject.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2011, 09:26:23 AM »

Hello,
My HTC got stolen a few days ago  Angry Cry. Is there any way to track the phone by the EMEI or something? Did not get to installing anti-theft software so there's no use in explaining that. I am realy devastated about this. I would be very greatful if anyone could help me here!
Thank you.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2011, 09:42:06 AM »

Brecht,

In your case the only thing you can do is call your provider (Proximus, Mobistar, Base or any of the smaller ones) and get the IMEI blocked.  That way the phone will not get onto any network anymore. 

Theoretically it could be possible for the providers to see what IMEI every SIM is using and triangulate that signal, but they simply don't do that because of the costs involved.
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