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« on: November 18, 2010, 12:15:10 PM »

I want to buy a phone and decided that I want a HTC Desire. At the moment I am confused about Desire and Desire HD.

I can acquire Desire for 451 $ and Desire HD for 746$ (I'm from Europe).  This is a 246$ difference. My question is : Is it worth it ?

Desire HD : http://www.htc.com/europe/product/desirehd/specification.html
Desire: http://www.htc.com/europe/product/desire/specification.html

I've been looking for a comprehensive comparison review, but there is so much hype about HD and Z that everybody seems to forget that there is also Desire ... .

Differences between Desire HD and Desire: (Debatable pros)
* HD has bigger screen but the same resolution
* HD seems to have a better design.
* HD has a better camera 8mpix vs 5 mpix.

The obvious pros:
* HD has wifi n support.
* HD has a second generation processor which reflects in battery consumption + 150 min GSM talk time and + 80 minutes of standby time. 1230 mh battery vs 1400 mh.

So guys did I miss something?

My thinking is :
*The 8 mpix vs 5 mpix - more mpix is fine, but if I want to have good photos, I'd rather invest 246$ in a good camera.
*The wifi n (600 MB/s) g(54 MB/s) support - I can't imagine what should I suppose to do with my phone to need 600MB/s. If it's video, I'm sure my phone won't handle it (Iv'e got problems viewing HD movies on older pc's)
*Better processor and battery - it's cool, but mayby I can sell my battery and buy a better one ? I can always have a backup usb charger at work/car.
*I like design of Desire HD better, but not to pay 246$ for it.


So guys what do you think, is Desire HD overpriced and really isn't so much better from Desire ? Help me out before I waste 246$! ;]

edit:(Desire vs HD) - dunno how not to embed so there is a space after www.
Benchmark: http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=f9Y5EHIpwNU
Dimension Comparison: http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=Wz9QFpVzmUI
Display comparison: http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=2Bt8ScwAPZE
Unboxing Desire HD: http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=hMmyvjnD48Y
Browser war: http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=Oetqyxl5WMU
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2010, 02:45:41 PM »

Right, grab a cup of coffee, soup, glass of coke or whisky, or whatever you prefer to do while reading a long text.

Let's get the most debatable thing out of the way first : the styling.  Tastes may differ, but I find that in real life the HD looks like just another slab of glass with a metal edge.  Too iPhone-like really.  
The regular Desire has a more distinctive look, with it's slightly bent lower piece and the buttons.  You really need to see them both in the flesh, as I wasn't too crazy about the old phone's styling when I saw it on the net.  In real-life it looks stunning tho, and IMO it's even more stunning in silver.

There is a review of the HD next to the Z, in which you can clearly see that the HD's screen is pale in comparison to the Z.  I posted it at the bottom of this post.  The Z seems to have the same screen as the regular Desire (same resolution and size at least), so it stands to reason that the regular Desire has a better screen than the HD.

Secondly, depending on the size of your hands, the HD may be too big.  The regular Desire is 60mm wide, which fits in my hand just perfectly.  The HD's 68mm is a few mm too much for comfort in my case.  It's doable, but I wouldn't want to have this massive thing as my main phone.

The HD may have a more energy-efficient CPU, but that's offset by the smaller battery capacity.  Both phones should get you through the day just fine, but getting 2 days of use out of them will be difficult regardless of which one you choose.  So you'll have to charge the phone every night anyway.

The HD has a lot more storage space for apps.  To me that's a non-issue as I don't have many apps anyway.  However if you prefer to have every gimmick and app on your phone, the HD will be the phone of choice for you.  Sure, you can root the regular Desire and so on to create more space, but I'm doing a stock vs stock comparison here.

The HD lacks an optical trackpad, which can make navigation tricky when a lot of tiny links are closely together.  Navigating the forum on a phone is difficult without it, as you'll be zooming in and out constantly in order to get the right link.  So the regular Desire certainly has the edge there.

On the other hand the old phone has physical buttons which will probably wear out a lot sooner than those touchscreen-like affairs on the HD.  I say "probably" because both phones aren't old enough to have any worn-out examples.

The HD has quickboot, which will catapult it from "off" to "ready" in just a few seconds.  The regular Desire needs between 40 seconds and a minute to boot.  Im not sure if that's really an advantage, but then again I only turn my phones off when they really aren't allowed to be on.  That's not very often.

The HD also comes with htcsense.com, which allows you to do erase or block the phone from your PC, or send text messages via the PC (sent messages will also appear in your phone's outbox, so it's fully linked).  The regular Desire may or may not get an upgrade to htcsense.com , but there is no definite answer on that.  HTC apparently claim to be working on it, but I'm not holding my breath yet.

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All in all, here's my personal input : If it were my $750, I'd get a regular Desire and spend the rest on a good camera.  The 250$ should get you a camera that neither phone can get close to in terms of quality.

That being said, I'm selling a regular Desire and plan on buying a HD early next month.  However in my case the HD would be a mere plaything, as my other regular Desire would remain my main phone.  
I can't help it, I just love my "silver bullet".  

The HD draws attention, and I'm not too sure I want that when I'm using it in public places.  I prefer to have a lot of power under the hood, but I don't like the whole world to know about it.  The regular Desire ticks all the right boxes for me.  It's elegant, yet is one of the most powerful phones money can buy today.  
To compare it with people : the HD is the huge hooligan which goes to bars looking for fights.  Look at him and you know he's trouble.  The regular Desire on the other hand is that quiet guy at that table in the corner, who wears a nice suit and minds his own business ... but is always ready to take that axe out of his suitcase and kill everyone.

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2010, 03:40:19 PM »

I wonder about the screen in HD and Z, look here:
http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=Oetqyxl5WMU&feature=channel

Can't you manually adjust saturation temperature and other screen settings? Mayby it also depends on the angle of the camera ?
Found comparison of screens :
Desire HD vs Desire http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=7NKSUFPT4qs

Given the benchmarks, Desire HD seems to be faster than Desire( because of RAM and processor ?).
"Update: HTC Desire HD is the first phone to use the 1 GHz MSM8255 Scorpion processor. This second generation Snapdragon processor uses a low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and efficiency, and more than doubles the performance of the GPU. This allows for longer talk and standby times than the original HTC Desire even with a smaller capacity battery. Phone start-up time has also been improved from more than 40 seconds to around 10 seconds. (Thanks to Þór Adam)"

from http://www.maggadget.com/android-warriors-htc-desire-vs-htc-desire-hd-vs-htc-desire-z/ .


Two good reviews of Desire HD:
http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=vyP6mnYGH0w&feature=related
http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=w3GaSHutKLU&feature=related


And another one (Look at the screen, it really matters how you show it, it looks neat here)
http://www.cnet.com.au/htc-desire-hd-339306040.htm

"(...) out-of-the-box performance, clocking benchmark results three-times those we saw on the original Desire (...)"
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2010, 05:11:47 PM »

In your first video, even the Z's screen looks pale.  Obviously the camera there has trouble with color or perhaps the lighting is an issue.  Even the second video is horrid in terms of picture quality.  Trust me, if my Desire's screen would look that pale I wouldn't have bought it.  That thing looks like the color was done like those 1950's movies by technicolor.

Check out your first vid at 12:50.  You can clearly see that the background of the photo they're displaying is nearly grey on the HD, while it's brown on the other phones.  That should already give you a clue as to how bad a display the HD has.  Really, go to a store, grab both phones and check them out together.  Only then you can make your choice.

If you really want ultimate performance, the HD is the most powerful of the 2, no doubts about that.  However the regular Desire is plenty powerful as well.  Can't say I've ever come across situations where I wished my phone was faster. 

Oh, before I forget : Your thoughts on the wifi N are slightly irrelevant.  You can only get those kinds of speeds if your internet connection allows them.  Being capable of downloading at 640mbit/s is nice, but if you have a 50mbit/s internet connection you will only get 50mbit/s on the phone as well. 
And HD movies (720 and 1080p) wouldn't play because they are larger than the screen.  I downscaled one to  800x480 as a test a while ago, and that played just fine on my phone.  Your average 700MB divx movie is even less of a problem, as thats only in the 600x250 region. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2010, 12:24:09 PM »

yeap, was playing with my friends HD and although its nice, I feel no desire at all to switch, although I want a big screen.

Although the screen is big, I don't find it better in quality than my Desire. The best screen has to be the Galaxy S.

Great writeup above!!!  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2010, 08:49:13 PM »

Interesting comparisons, thanks guys.

FWIW I recently bought a Desire and wondered about the going for the HD but size was the killer for me. I upgraded from an N95 and the Desire felt quite wide enough, any more would have been uncomfortable. Had the screen been higher res (erm, HD perhaps? even if only 720p) it might have been worth it, but not as it stands.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 06:50:06 AM »

Biggest appeal of the HD for me is the much greater memory.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 01:57:54 AM »

I have a desire and my boss has just got the HD Desire. The biggest difference to the eye is it's size. The HD screen is bigger than my entire phone!!!.
It has a huge screen alsmost a mini Ipad really.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 10:20:00 PM »

Interesting comparisons, thanks guys.

FWIW I recently bought a Desire and wondered about the going for the HD but size was the killer for me. I upgraded from an N95 and the Desire felt quite wide enough, any more would have been uncomfortable. Had the screen been higher res (erm, HD perhaps? even if only 720p) it might have been worth it, but not as it stands.

How to get 720p on a Smartphone (that will still fit in your one hand)

PLAN A - highest chances of success:
1. Dream

PLAN B - South Korea:
1. Spend 5 years training with SAS/SEAL/Special forces of your choice/nationality
2. Spend 3 years learning Korean until you sound like a native
3. Spend 6 months getting plastic surgery to look Korean. Park Ji-Sung is a good choice to emulate here.
4. Get into South Korea and campaign for unification and communism
5. Defect into North Korea
6. In your face-to-face meeting with Kim Jong-Un (his dad would be dead/retired by then), kill him and topple the government
7. In the ensuing chaos and confusion, sneak into the nuclear reactor and cause a meltdown. This is important
8. After finally bringing peace to the Korean Peninsular, infiltrate the President's Palace of South Korea.
9. Threaten the President to channel funds into R&D since North Korea nuked itself and they no longer have to pay for rebuilding it for the next 40 years Tongue
10. Wait for Samsung and LG to race each other to building the the Super(R)-Retina(TM) AMOLED(TM) screen with 720p resolutions.
11. Buy it when it launches! (Be an early adopter!)
12. Get crushed in agony when they announced that the 1080p screen will launch 2 weeks/months/years later.

PLAN C: Japan:
1. Spend 5 years training with SAS/SEAL/Special forces of your choice/nationality
2. Spend 3 years learning Japan until you sound like a native
3. Spend 6 months getting plastic surgery to look Japanese. Any JAV actress is a good choice to emulate here.
4. Infiltrate the corporate offices of Panasonic and/or Sony.
5. Get distracted by the PSP Phone for a while.
6. Offer gratuitous carnal pleasures to the board if they would release the 720p screen instead of waiting for the time when their stocks start to fall.
7. Buy it when it launches! (Be an early adopter!)
8. Get crushed in agony when they announced that the 1080p screen will launch 2 weeks/months/years later.
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 05:09:13 PM »

Hehehe, I fancy a trip to Japan so I'll try that route Smiley

It is funny that they'd call it the HD though, especially since they upgraded the Desire's video to 720p soon after so there is nothing uniquely HD about it (afaik).
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 07:59:43 PM »

Might need to revise learning the language up by a few factors there... Wink

The HD refers more to the screen size and the heft of the device I think... True HD for TVs are 1080p, so...
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