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« on: June 02, 2010, 07:44:20 AM »

Newbie with phone, read manual but can't find answer...
If you press 'Home' button for a couple of seconds you see icons of running apps. I know you can switch to other apps but how do you switch a particular app OFF? If you're done browsing for example and hit 'Home' button does that mean that the browser closes or does it run for a specified time in the background? Does this mean the poor battery is running out of juice even faster?? I ask because when you go to run the browser later on it starts pretty damn fast! So far, a sure way to turn the apps off is to switch the phone off and on again. There has to be an easier way.
Sorry for the long question but thought background info might help.
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 10:30:28 AM »

Newbie with phone, read manual but can't find answer...
If you press 'Home' button for a couple of seconds you see icons of running apps. I know you can switch to other apps but how do you switch a particular app OFF? If you're done browsing for example and hit 'Home' button does that mean that the browser closes or does it run for a specified time in the background? Does this mean the poor battery is running out of juice even faster?? I ask because when you go to run the browser later on it starts pretty damn fast! So far, a sure way to turn the apps off is to switch the phone off and on again. There has to be an easier way.
Sorry for the long question but thought background info might help.

Select Advanced Task Killer from the apps market.  It is free and you put it on your Home page.  Tap it and it takes you to a screen which shows all the programs that are running in the background.  Tick the ones you want to close and then KILL selected apps.  This is a must have app.
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 04:58:02 AM »

Thanks for the quick reply. One route I'd tried was by going to Menu - Settings - Applications - Running Services. Some help there but not exactly what I was looking for. Saw it on App store last night. Will try it out.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 07:12:03 AM »


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Select Advanced Task Killer from the apps market.  It is free and you put it on your Home page.  Tap it and it takes you to a screen which shows all the programs that are running in the background.  Tick the ones you want to close and then KILL selected apps.  This is a must have app.
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Just saw this on a forum elsewhere.
Any thoughts?

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Advanced Task Killer won't switch off your radio.

''The only thing you're going to achieve with using a task killer, is lowering performance and causing even worse battery drain. If that's what you want to do, fine, but otherwise, I wouldn't bother if I were you.

Here's why:

Android's memory management is nothing like Windows Mobile. Applications you've finished with are MEANT to stay in memory until they really are completely finished with, and just because YOU aren't using them, doesn't mean the phone has. If they've been inactive long enough, or some other program needs the RAM, Android will tidily close them down.

If you close them prematurely, then Android will have to load them back up again, so that whatever was using said program's services, can continue to function. This noticeably affects phone performance, and puts an extra load on your battery. Do you REALLY want to do that?

I'm not using any task killers, and my phone runs great, and battery is up to 2.5 days.''
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 07:33:42 AM »

Well, that's told me. Shocked Wink

Being 60+ means that I have no idea what it means.  However, I shall follow the advice.  Thanks. Smiley Smiley

I'll wait and see if someone called 'A****w' responds privately to me.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 07:40:41 AM »

You have nothing to worry about (age is just a number!)  Smiley
I'll uninstall and let you guys know how my battery life goes (since installing the app I've had to charge at the end of the each day - not sure if it's the app or me playing with the phone)
Will keep all posted.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 11:33:28 AM »

Has your battery life improved after uninstalling task manager? It seems mine have improved after killing unwanted tasks that are running in background.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2010, 08:50:50 AM »

It's hard to say - after a few charges of the battery 'from new' I'm getting about a day and a half to two days. That's with lots of Wifi use (and my 4yr old hogging it to play games or watch videos!) at home in the evenings.
I'll try again after I've downloaded Froyo in a couple of days(!) and see how it goes.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 07:52:24 AM »

Don't totally agree with you there dude!

I do agree that by using ATK you are not allowing Android to do it's "thing"

However, sometimes ATK is useful, then other times it's just down right annoying.
Example, just now I had a whole load of apps running in the background, available memory was 123M, after a kill, it went up to 360M.

However, Android, then decides that IT knows better and opens a load of apps up again for me, including one that when I want it closed I want it closed, "TweetCaster" is the culprit here!

If Android decides to open up Tweetcaster again, I start using data again. Perhaps I don't want my data allowance being used at that time!

There is a need to be able to turn apps OFF totally intill "I" want them open again.

Greg.




Select Advanced Task Killer from the apps market.  It is free and you put it on your Home page.  Tap it and it takes you to a screen which shows all the programs that are running in the background.  Tick the ones you want to close and then KILL selected apps.  This is a must have app.
[/quote]

Just saw this on a forum elsewhere.
Any thoughts?

PS
Advanced Task Killer won't switch off your radio.

''The only thing you're going to achieve with using a task killer, is lowering performance and causing even worse battery drain. If that's what you want to do, fine, but otherwise, I wouldn't bother if I were you.

Here's why:

Android's memory management is nothing like Windows Mobile. Applications you've finished with are MEANT to stay in memory until they really are completely finished with, and just because YOU aren't using them, doesn't mean the phone has. If they've been inactive long enough, or some other program needs the RAM, Android will tidily close them down.

If you close them prematurely, then Android will have to load them back up again, so that whatever was using said program's services, can continue to function. This noticeably affects phone performance, and puts an extra load on your battery. Do you REALLY want to do that?

I'm not using any task killers, and my phone runs great, and battery is up to 2.5 days.''
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 05:39:01 PM »

This must be a very old thread.  We encourage people to stay away from taskkillers nowadays.  They really do more harm than good.

2.5 days?  I get that with normal usage.  3.5 - 4 days on standby, with 3G on 24/7.  5 days+ if I turn 3G off.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2010, 10:22:38 AM »

I'm very interested in this thread. I only received my Desire 3 days ago and noticed that the battery is draining like crazy. As I have an "unlimited" internet usage plan with my contract for the time being, it downloads my mails automatically, updates the weather, etc. I also thought that the many running applications were responsible for the battery drain.
Example: Between 2am last night and 9.30am this morning, the battery had drained by more than half. I had it fully charged last nite. That's why I checked out this thread. None the wiser really.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2010, 10:48:01 AM »

Hi Ms Aragon, welcome.

What you're experiencing is normal.  The battery needs a week or 2 to get up to it's full capacity.  Also, Android is a "learning" OS, which means that it logs all kinds of data and then uses it to adjust which tasks to kill etc.  This "learning" takes about 5-15 days as well.

That may sound stupid, but it isn't.  No 2 people use the phone in the same way, and Android adjusts itself to how you use the phone.  If you don't use application X much, it won't keep that in its active memory.

There are some tips and tricks to optimize battery life.  Firstly, I'd sugest that you calibrate the battery.  Afterwards, give the battery and phone some time to get their act together.  
If the battery life still is bad after 2 weeks, we'll look into it.  
Keep in mind that smartphones generally need to be charged every night.  So if it gets you through the day without worries, it's enough really.

One suggestion tho : 99% of the people won't ever use the "Stocks" app, but that does drain some power by regularly updating.  Here's how to stop that :

Settings -> Accounts & sync -> Stocks -> de-select "Sync stock info"
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2010, 12:05:23 PM »

Thanks for your good advice:) Had actually just finished calibrating the battery thanks to one of the threads on this forum, when I received notification of your reply.
I've also deselected the Stocks app. Stocks - would be a fine thing to have in this economic climate, lol.
Great forum, will keep reading and participating:)
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2011, 04:37:33 AM »

i have advansed task killer and when i go in and tab kill selected apps it goes away then i go in like 2 minutes after then everything on the mobile is on? it happens all the time help me!





Select Advanced Task Killer from the apps market.  It is free and you put it on your Home page.  Tap it and it takes you to a screen which shows all the programs that are running in the background.  Tick the ones you want to close and then KILL selected apps.
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2011, 04:59:19 AM »

I suggest you read my earlier reply, as well as this thread.  App killers such as ATK actually decrease your battery life and mess up the entire phone.  

Get rid of ATK and give your phone 2 weeks to recover. 
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