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« on: December 16, 2010, 01:26:17 PM »

Those of you who have been using your phone for a while will already know about this but the Desire User Guide doesn't cover the subject so I thought I'd post this for new users.

If you use the standard Mail app (not the Gmail one) every email that you delete goes into your Trash folder and uses up internal memory. If you don't empty your Trash folder regularly you'll wonder why you're running out of memory faster than you expected. I've just done an experiment by not emptying my Trash for several days. My internal memory went down to just over 17 MB. When I went to empty the Trash I found over 700 emails and deleting them brought the internal memory back to over 27 MB. Quite a difference.

To empty the Trash, run the Mail app then press the Menu key and select Folders and then select Trash. Press the Menu key again and select Delete. Press the Menu key again and select Mark All. Now press the Delete button.

If you've got more than one mail account, tap the bar at the top that shows the server name, then select the other account(s) from the drop-down menu. This way you can delete all of the old emails as each account has a separate Trash folder.

You can, of course, leave it until you get a "low on space" notification. Now you know your first port of call when you get it.

EDIT: Note that the above advice is for those who download their email using POP protocol. If you get your mail by connecting to an MS Exchange server, DO NOT follow the above advice as doing so will most likely delete the entire contents of your Trash folder. Of course, this might be acceptable, but I've added this warning after advice from a couple of forum posters.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 06:09:35 PM »

I have the same problem...missing from day to day more and more memory..
I'm daily emptying trashes in all accounts but the mail app is still using big amount of memory - 12MB....
Only solution that i have found is ... clear data in application...but with this i lost all accounts and have to create them again... but i must do it every week to save memory....

Any idea  how to clear used memory for mail app without loosing definitions of accounts?
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 08:22:39 AM »

Can I ask why you choose to use the mail client to get you pop mail rather than having your GMail account pick it up?
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 10:13:19 AM »

Presumably this advice is NOT for those using exchange accounts as the mail is held remotely and if you delete it, it will delete it from exchange which may not be what you want.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 03:21:00 PM »

Can I ask why you choose to use the mail client to get you pop mail rather than having your GMail account pick it up?

My Gmail account is for email that I want to receive: mail from friends and family, official mail, individuals and businesses that are in my personal contact list. My other email accounts are for all of the junk including spam, email from businesses I no longer have any relationship with, and email from people and businesses that I have a short-term relationship with. I don't want any of this latter type of mail going anywhere near my important mail. Especially since Gmail archives my email and it would take far too long going through it pruning out the junk. Better to download it into a set of junk folders and delete it from the server.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 03:24:47 PM »

Presumably this advice is NOT for those using exchange accounts as the mail is held remotely and if you delete it, it will delete it from exchange which may not be what you want.

When I wrote my post I overlooked the fact that many people use the stock Mail client with MS Exchange. I would advise anyone using Exchange accounts to be very careful when deleting anything, but I would also point out that I was talking about emptying Trash folders. It makes sense with any Trash folders to go through the contents very carefully before deleting anything as a) some mail might have been deleted inadvertently, and b) you'll get a chance for second thoughts about whether to claim your winnings in the Nigerian lottery. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 09:29:48 PM »

There are two mail apps pre-loaded from what I can see: the Mail App and the Gmail one. Currently, they're both connected to the same gmail account. Is there a way to disable one of them? Do both of them download mail messages? If so, that means both are eating up space for redundant info, so 'd like only one of them to work. I'm new at this so sorry if the question sounds noobish Sad
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2011, 03:40:33 PM »

Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you but I've been busy lately.

The Mail app downloads messages and keeps them on your phone until they're deleted off the server at which point they should be deleted. Whether this happens depends to some degree on which version of Android you're using; there was a bug earlier that deleted mail at the wrong time.

Using the Gmail site is similar to using the Gmail website: the emails are displayed from the site on the screen but are only downloaded into temporary files that will be deleted when you change folders or log out of Gmail.

If you're already checking your mail in the Gmail account, I would suggest that you delete the account from the Mail app.

1) Make sure you're in the correct account by looking at the drop-down menu at the very top of the Mail app window. You can select a different account by tapping the drop-down menu.

2) Tap Menu, More, Settings, Delete Account.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2011, 06:20:06 PM »

@ garryknight:

Thanks for this! Was able to delete the Mail account with your help Smiley Thanks again Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 09:16:54 AM »

Presumably this advice is NOT for those using exchange accounts as the mail is held remotely and if you delete it, it will delete it from exchange which may not be what you want.
Quite!
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 03:38:38 PM »

I've now modified my original post to include a warning for MS Exchange users. As I said earlier, the advice I gave only affects your Trash folder, and while it will most likely delete All mail from your Trash folder, it will most likely make absolutely no difference to the amount of available memory on your mobile phone.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2011, 10:38:40 AM »

I apologize if this is not the right place to post this but am having trouble with memory and email.

I have been emptying my trash and that seemed to help but now still am low on memory and have deleted just about every app I can't live without.

My other most pressing problem is now all of a sudden even though the

Delete mail from server is OFF

when I delete messages from my trash if I haven't gone downloaded them to my pc for the one account (q.com) and actually gone to webmail and marked them read and moved them from inbox(godaddy biz email) then when I empty trash on phone they also delete from inbox.

It never used to be this way. It is a pain. I like to be notified of my emails but have to delete them from phone to save internal memory. So can't risk losing them. Please help.

I had 20mb of memory left and now am down to 14mb most days and I haven't added any new apps.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2011, 09:44:59 AM »

Still like the Desire for its compact size and for its optical trackball function that I dearly miss in all other, later models HTC released since, and in the Samsung smartphones as well... especially when positioning the cursor somewhere in a text field when editing a piece of writing the optical trackball is a superior tool (compared to the clumsy arrows, that are especially hopeless when one needs to select a piece of text bigger than just one screen) and I still am dearly missing it on for instance my two Galaxy phones to date.
About the little internal memory there Desire has and how to free some MBs, a very helpful app downloadable in Android Market for that is Android System Info by ElectricSheep. Once opened, under 'Apps' it makes visible like no other EVERYTHING that is installed in the internal memory, and when you tap on one of the big memory occupiers, it will SPECIFY what part of the amount of consumed MBs is actually the app itself and what part its 'data' (bits it has captured along the road). And indeed, here might show some big surprises. I recently were forced to sanitize my internal memory this way, it suddenly having shrunken to a mere 12 MBs - at which level 'Maps' will seize to zoom or function altogether for instance, and nothing will upgrade anymore. I found that the mail fn held more than 11 MBs, all data, no embodiment of the app itself (once deleted, there were no noticeable change in Mail, it were functioning still normal as before and even still had all the folders). I suppose this cleanup was basically the same as the procedure described (above) will enable.  Even a bigger surprise I think was finding that there was a function called 'Internet' (not  browser, not Google Search) that itself is zero bits, but also held over 12 MBs in data!
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 11:26:21 AM »

....but I cant delete any of my trash messages in gmail, why is this? There must be a way to do it?
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2012, 09:13:49 PM »

Is there a way to disable one of them? They download the mail? If so, which means that all eat the excess space, and therefore would like just one of them work.
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