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« on: December 11, 2010, 09:30:58 PM »

HI EVERYBODY, THIS PAST WEEK I GOT THE URGE TO BUY A SMARTPHONE. I DON'T USE MOBILES A LOT (CALLS & TEXTS) AND NEVER GO ON THE NET ON MY CURRRENT MOBILE. I'M CURRENTLY WITH T-MOBILE PAYG ON A TOCCO LITE. MY PARTNER HAS A HTC TOUCH 2 AND I QUITE LIKE IT SO I THOUGHT I'D GIVE HTC A GO.  TO START OFF I THOUGHT OF GOING FOR THE HTC WILDFIRE AS THE PRICE WAS AROUND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR BUT I REALLY WANT A BIG SCREEN, SO I FOUND THE LOVELY HTC DESIRE. WENT ROUND 4 DIFFERENT SHOPS TO LOOK FOR THE BEST DEAL AND FOUND ONE WITH VODAFONE. SO, TAKING THE WEEKEND TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IF I SHOULD GET IT/NOT GET IT.
DISCOVERED THE BATTERY LIFE ISSUE AND WAS A BIT PUT OFF, BUT AFTER READING SOME ADVICE (CALIBRATION) HERE I AM GETTING MORE AND MORE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING IT.
2 QUESTIONS: IF I GET IT, WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO DO THE BATTERY CALIBRATION ? SHOULD I DO IT AS SOON AS GET HOME I.E. CHARGE THE BATTERY TO FULL (IGNORING HOW MUCH THERE IS) AND WHEN IT HITS FULL, START THE PROCESS.
2 SECOND QUESTION. IS IT LIKELY THAT THE PHONE WILL COME WITH THE 2.2 ANDROID OS, (BELIEVE THIS IS THE NEWEST), DO I NEED TO ASK THE SALESPERSON THIS AND IF NOT THE LATEST VERSION IS IT BETTER TO ASK THE SALESPERSON TO UPDATE IT THERE AND THE OR SHOULD I DO IT MYSELF. JUST WONDERING AS HAVE READ THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WHEN TRYING TO UPDATE THE SOFTWARE.
THANKS FOR ANY ADVICE...
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 05:29:24 AM »

Hi Wilborama, welcome

The battery life is indeed problematic at first.  Calibration does indeed help.  IMO the best thing to do when you get the phone is to charge it, then use it untill the battery gets so low that it shuts down, then charging it and performing the calibration. 
Even after calibration you still won't see the full potential, as the battery takes a week or 2 to get up to full strength.  But it'll be a massive improvement already.

As for the OS, nowadays it's very likely that the phone comes with 2.2, but there may still be some older phones in stock with 2.1 .  The chance of getting a 2.1 Desire are very small tho, especially at bigger dealerships. 
Even if you don't get the latest software it's not really a problem.  If an update gives you problems, simply perform a factory reset.  Sure, your personal data will be gone, but there are easy tricks to deal with that.  Entering the contacts as Google contacts (for instance) will make the phone back them up to your gmail account.  There are apps that back up your messages as well, so a factory reset isn't that much of a nightmare if you set the phone up properly.

You say you've been looking for the best deal and found it with Vodafone.  Keep in mind that "getting a good deal" usually means that the phone will come with the carrier's own branding.  Their own bootscreen and a lot of apps you'll never use and can't remove.  IMO the best deal is the one where you pay more to get the phone without any branding.  But of course that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 07:46:48 AM »

Hi, Thanks for the info. One thing, when you say an unbranded phone would be better do you mean a sim free phone. Getting one from somewhere like amazon and not a mobile phone shop ? Isn't that super expensive ? The deal I found is for (£20 a month, 300 mins, 300 texts, 500mg data, free phone) I make very few calls or texts, the only reason I can get a £20 deal is because I already have a contract with vodaphone and this would be a second line. Is possible to "unlock the phone" like other mobiles so it can accept any sim card, is that what they call rooting...Huh
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 08:31:57 AM »

Unbranded means you get the phone with default HTC software.  That means paying the full price, 450 EUR or roughly £350 (not sure on exact UK prices)
Branded means the carrier (Vodafone in this case) first adds their own extra software and their logo on the startup screen.
The problem with branding is that you need to wait quite a bit longer before you get updates and that you get all that software 99% of people will never use.  The Desire doesn't have much memory space for apps to begin with, so the less garbage comes with it, the better.
Yes, I know it's a lot of money, but then again it's a lot of smartphone.  IMO each person should decide for himself wether he wants to part with more money or get more annoyance.

Depending on the carrier, branded phones may or may not have a simlock on them.  Best check with Vodafone if you plan to use another SIM after your contract expires.

Rooting is a completely different thing.  Basically rooting enables you to access system files or replace the entire operating system with an aftermarket one. 
This has many advantages (better managment of disk space, ability to store apps completely on the SD card, possibility to make your phone faster or conserve more battery, etc etc). 
The major disadvantage is that you may lose your warranty.  HTC is pretty mod-minded, so if they don't suspect the rooting to be the cause of the problem, they will usually still fix it under warranty.  But don't count on it.
Branded phones can be rooted, and if you use a custom ROM (operating system), the branding will be gone too.  So you could get a branded phone and de-brand it.  However that means you can no longer install regular updates as those are meant to be used with the stock ROM.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2010, 09:00:39 AM »

HI THERE, WELL I GOT MY DESIRE LAST WEDNESDAY AND LOVE IT. HOPE YOU DON'T MIND BUT NEED TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.  Grin
WHEN I TRIED TO CALLIBRATE BATTERY, AFTER FOLLOWING INTRUCTIONS, (LET BATTERY GET SO LOW PHONE GOES OFF, RECHARGING IT TILL FULL, UNPLUG ADAPTOR, SWITCH PHONE OFF, RE-PLUG ADAPTOR) THEN AT THAT MOMENT IS THE PROBLEM, THE LIGHT IS GREEN, NOT ORANGE. MAKES SENSE TOUGH, SINCE I'VE JUST CHARGED THE PHONE.
SHOULD I WAIT A BIT (LIKE 20 MINS OR SO) AND LET BATTERY GET USED A BIT, SO WHEN I RE-PLUG ADAPTOR LIGHT SHOULD BE ORANGE ? AND THE CONTINUE WITH THE STEPS...
THE OTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNS WI-FI. NOT A BIG PROBLEM  BUT I GOT THE MESSAGE ERROR CONNECTION, RETRY , CANCEL. WHEN USING THE NET, WHEN THIS HAPPENS I NEED TO PRESS RETRY A FEW TIMES 8-10 OR COME OUT THE PAGE AND THEN PHONE WILL RECONNECT. AS I SAID NOT A BIG PROBLEM BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS ON HOW COULD I IMPROVE WI-FI CONNECTIONS.
THANKS FOR ANY INFO... Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 09:42:00 PM »

ALL CAPS!!! MY EYES!!!! NOES!!!!!

Srsly, why are you shouting?

As for calibrations, both ways work, as long as a charge is going through.

For the wi-fi, check the wifi sleep policy in the settings.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 07:27:17 AM »

Hiya
dont know if you have got your phone yet but I got a really good deal on a pay monthly from Three for £25 a month
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 08:19:32 AM »

Hi, thanks for tip. I did get my phone from vodafone. I already have a contract with them and because of this they gave me a £20 month deal.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 08:31:50 AM »

You guys have it good... in Malaysia, we have to pay for the phone (at about 60-70% RRP) and still have to pay through our noses for voice and data.
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