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« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2010, 02:39:56 AM »

I have had exactly the same problem. Bought the phone through an Orange Panther contract in April. Noticed it got hot when charging and when I used google maps with GPS on the road just to see what it was like, although it did not crash at that time. I didn't use GPS or maps very often. Crashing first occurred in late August when I was going on holiday. It didn't reboot as such, just shut down and got stuck on the bright HTC screen. Since then it seems to have to progressively worse, crashing recently when taking photos and then the other evening when I was charging and downloading the latest firmware update. I don't use a lot of applications and when I remove the back to take out the battery as the only means of closing the phone down to cool and restart, the battery doesn't seem that hot. In fact the front lower section felt hotter.

Having had a good read of the other postings, I thought I might as well try customer service and rang them last Friday.They (a Spanish lady I think) were very nice polite and helpful and UPS is due to collect the phone on Monday for HTC to look at and fix(?). I will let you know how I get on.

Incidentally, my phone serial number is HT05 and is a Desire A8181
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2010, 04:26:05 AM »

I am still waiting for my Desire to be returned from the UK Service Centre. Phoned them a couple of days ago but only info they could give was that they received it 10 days ago. If this is returned with the same fault I will be contacting the BBC Watchdog consumer programme to try and force HTC to admit this is a widespread problem. They just seem to be fobbing us all off. The phone is obviously unfit for purpose when this problem exists and as such I feel that we are all entitled to a definitive answer from HTC as to what they are doing to rectify it!!!
I acquired the HT06 through Carphone Warehouse on a £30.00 monthly Vodafone contract. Am now paying for airtime that I can't use and have had to revert to an old Nokia handset that I've used for 2 years without any problems whatsoever. Will keep you posted when the phone is finally returned. If enough of us complain then Watchdog may get involved. Pity we have to go to such measures when a simple statement from HTC could make all the difference! Silence is definitely not golden !!!!!!!! Lips sealed
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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2010, 05:05:21 AM »

I've had my Desire for exactly two months and I've justed started to get this problem. I was using Maps at the time and the phone suddenly switched off. When it rebooted it froze on the HTC screen. I took the battery out, replaced it and left it for a bit. When I picked it up again about 15 mins later the back was baking hot! Since then it's kept turning off randomly but so far it only seems to do it when I'm using 3G. I've been using WiFi for the past few hours and it's been fine. I'm not a heavy user and had only been on maps for two or three minutes when it happened.   
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« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2010, 05:57:01 AM »

After the problems this morning I went for an all-out SD card format + factory reset, both via the phone's menu.  So far (3 hours after the reset) the phone hasn't given any problems yet.  I set up the gmail account (created a new one) and that's it.  Haven't touched it since it booted to the default homescreen.

As it is only a secondary phone now, I will simply leave it on, but won't be using it the first week.  If it reboots one more time, I'm going to send it back for replacement of the main board.
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« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2010, 08:48:45 PM »

crazy idea: maybe the chargers are the problem(just saying) the cable can get hot because of the charger.

maybe the heat causes the initial problem, and later the heat is not needed for the problem.

are there any apps for android that can check ram or cpu(like on pc, cpu or ram benchmark, or testing) ? (because if it fails on that check, restarts or something, you can really tell whats the problem)

I am buying the phone next week, and i have a bad feeling Smiley i am a power user, so if the heat causes the initial problem, im getting the restart loop for sure.
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« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2010, 10:04:34 PM »

X, I'm starting to think about what Miladinovich said about heat causing the initial problem.

From what I remember, the first gen XBOX 360 had problems with overheating the processor melting the solders on the processor. It might be the same problem over here on the Desire. If that is so, definitely a design flaw.

I also think that it has to be fair to consumers to make a report. The BBC Watchdog program, despite being a little "aggressive" to say the least, is a good option. HTC have a huge following in UK, and we really should pressure them to offer unconditional and extended warranties if there a case of random reboot.

For an app to check the CPU usage and RAM usage, I use Quick Android Info and Android System Info. Neither app, however, offers charting ability.

@miladinovic87: Power users should really root. I use a UV kernel and SetCPU to retain sanity and lower CPU drain. If you are based in the UK, you should wait for the Desire Z and HD to launch. While they might be inferior/unnecessarily powerful for me, it will definitely make the Desire drop its price. Another thing is to make sure your serial HT08 and above.
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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2010, 05:55:49 AM »

Damn you HTC, so you got it after 3 months I see, I read about a week ago that someone else got it after 3 months too and changed it to 2.5 months in the list.

Test list for random reboot problems:

-Starts around 2,5 months after use
-Reboots get worse over time
-Firmware and android version doesn’t matter which you have
-force apps2sd doesn’t matter if you use it or not
-PVT1 or PVT3 or whatever doesn’t matter
-Screen type, doesn't matter if you have AMOLED or SLCD
-There seems to be an antenna/radio/simcard issue also
-overheating causes reboots too
-Reboot is not always temp related
-sd card size doesn’t seem to matter
-having apps on sd or not doesn’t matter
-size of files on sd doesn’t matter
-rooted or not doesn’t matter
-seems like motherboard changed after repair doesn't always fix it
-simlocked or not doesn't matter
-provider doesn't matter(vodafone, kpn/hi, T-mobile etc all got it)
-seems to be hardware issue, but we all know software can greatly affect hardware so it can go either way
-restarting doesn't fix it
-factory resetting doesn't fix it
-changing/buying new battery didn't fix it
-using app killers or shutting down some services yourself doesn't help
-leaving all settings on default doesn't fix it
-all phones with s/n HT03 to HT07 can get this problem (no problems from HT08, SH08 and SH09 heard so far)
-Plugged into car charger or not doesn’t matter
-Hboot version probably doesn't matter (still not fully tested)

Other than this I seriously agree with saka.
There is NO insurance what so ever that the stock motherboards will last for very long. It’s almost asif their fitted with lego motherboards and that HTC was hoping to change them out with real motherboards after the phone is bought. What makes it even worse is that their trying to do all this under the radar and they actually hope to keep this up forever. They’ve already moved on to 2 new Desires indicating that their trying to get as far away from this Desire as they can so later they can state that they no longer repair old HTC Desires to manage saving money on replacing endless motherboards.

I’ll fully support any ideas to expose HTC and make them work like a normal company. They have so much potential yet their making stupid mistakes by lacking in customer service and ignoring their problems completly
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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2010, 06:06:45 AM »

Just wanna add to the criteria list,

I think the HBOOT version is linked to the HT number, coz newer HBOOT seems to correlate to newer HT numbers, assuming they are running in serial. It might be an indication that since HT08 is newer, and it doesn't face the problem (or users haven't faced the problem...) it might mean that HTC fixed it?
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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2010, 06:39:46 AM »

I hope they fixed it but we’ll never know if they don’t say another.
It’s also important for future users that will come across this problem that they know there’s a solution for it.

But right now we have no clue and the fact that HTC doesn’t speak up means they have no clue either. Their testing out motherboards on their users and ignoring the complaints. In this day and age I find this truly unthinkable and unexpected that a company can sell a defective product that clearly doesn’t meet the expectations of the user, or the expectations that are attached to the product for that matter. And that company says absolutely nothing over the matter and no one puts up a fight on top of that. It’s like being cheated to buy something with a lifespan 1/20th of its expected size and no one complains about it. I really can’t believe how this problem is still only on forums and in the shadows after 8+ months. And HTC repair line still gives people the line “we never heard of this problem before” and after repair still gives people a card saying “no problems or issues were found with your phone”.


I don’t want to see that some random repair guy changed my motherboard and I don’t want to see that my problem has stopped (possible to start again in 3 months) what I really wanna see is that HTC! is aware of that problem and that HTC! Has the solution, and I wanna see that this notice came from HTC on a trusted large media source. ONLY then can people be sure that their phone won’t reboot every 2.5 months or after their 2 year warranty, leaving them with repair costs or a crappy rebooting phone.
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« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2010, 10:30:07 AM »

Just spoke to HTC again about my Desire repair. Nothing showing on their system as to the status of the repair in the UK repair centre. Very polite lady but said that she was unaware of any rebooting etc. problem but took a note of my comments and thanked me for bringing it to their attention!!!!! I confirmed that I would be contacting the BBC Watchdog programme if this was not resolved very quickly to my, and everyone elses, satisfaction. She has now agreed to find out more and will contact me again in the next 48 hours with the result of her enquiry. I will post again when I get a reply.
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« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2010, 11:32:39 AM »

Not much I can add to this except to say mine has gone the same way as the others - I've had it since April/May time, it's an HT04 according to the s/no, and mine went during the reboot from an ota update - not to Froyo but to whatever Orange's latest 2.1 update is. Just won't go past the white screen with the HTC logo, occasionally gets as far as the Orange "starburst" effect but then reboots in a constant loop.  

I have no idea how to do any of the "hard resets" or whatever people are talking about, but I'm not going to try anything in case they say it's my fault it's all gone wrong.

It's going to Orange tomorrow, I'll see what they have to say, but will probably take a few printouts of this and other forums to show that it's not an isolated issue. It probably won't help that according to this morning's business pages half of Orange's staff are about to walk the long walk out the door, so they'll have more important things to worry about. I'm gutted because I looked into this for ages before I bought it and convinced myself it was a good handset to buy.  Ho hum.

Good luck all!

Cheers, Moose.  Angry

... just occurred to me.  One poster above referred to using the maps at the same time as the car charger as being a potential source of problems.  If this is correct it would seem to be a huge error on the part of the manufacturers... if I am using the nav function in my car, I don't want to arrive at my destination and then have to plug in my phone, having driven for hours with a perfectly satisfactory charger unplugged because it made the phone hot.  Can't see the point in making it like that, but then I'm not very technical, just an end-user.
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« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2010, 11:35:06 AM »

LOL, this is gonna be funny, she either works there for 2 days and hasn’t come across someone with the problem yet or their taking you for a joyride like they do with everyone else that calls by telling them "they don't know of the problem".

It’s starting to seem like a standard HTC support center line
-Deny any knowledge of customer’s problem
-be polite and nice while help
-mention that you'll look into the problem

The next step is:
-mention that you have found no record of the problem

I really wanna know what she says so do keep us posted =p

my helper was a semi robot so whatever, and you’re in the UK!
On the XDA forum there’s been many reports of UK people reporting this problem so they really know how to bullshit people. I vote for totally moving ahead with the BBC idea. However I have the feeling that HTC reached them way before we will meaning they might reject anything related to HTC XD

EDIT for moose:
I received my Desire back from repair like 4 days ago and I had the exact same reboot problem you’re talking about (send it back 1 hour after). It’s like either a full HTC logo screen glitch or a really quick reboot. Faster than the normal random reboots reboot. Either way the HTC is a buggy phone there’s nothing you can do about it except for helping us get HTC to admit it and try and fix it =p

other than that hard reset is HOLD VOL DOWN +POWER when it’s off

Sending it for repair and hoping for the best is also your only option for fixing it.
doing a hardware reset is the same as a factory reset it won’t hurt your phone or make it seem hacked or another so it’s not in violation of any rules and is recommended even (too often) by HTC.
after the menu appears press erase memory or something like that. Use the VOL DOWN button to select it and the power button to accept the selection.

warning, when my phone was rebooting and I did this reset method it actually got worse =p

(to some extend I’m starting to get the idea that ALL Desires with HT07 and lower will sooner or later get this problem with possibly an increased chance for HT06 and lower. So far there are 3 case types, 1,5 month reboots, 2 month reboots and 3 month reboots. Maybe in the future we will come across 4 month and even a year later, but still most likely with the stock motherboard. Anyone else get the feeling you have a time bomb where the processor should be? =p  it either heat explodes or randomly explodes on the set month >.< )
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« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2010, 01:01:10 PM »

In all fairness, mine hasn't done anything since the hard reset.  I haven't made any calls or browsed with it yet, although it is now permanently attached to my main PC for tethering purposes.  (my ISP will install an internet connection here on the 18th, so untill then the Desire will have to do.  This is going to be an expensive week)

Seeing as it showed a software error while it was having these reboots and it's current lack of problems, I'm beginning to think my OS went bad for some reason.  I'll keep an eye on it tho.
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« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2010, 01:21:57 PM »

Alright, just as a side note. When my reboots started it was horrible the first day then I did a reset and it got good then I changed my simcard and it went 2 days without acting funny and then when I started really using it again for gaming and music it started rebooting more often again. The random reboots became more attached to my use of the phone and also more often. But yeah, let us know how it turns out although the reboot loop is pretty characteristic of this problem. Try some intensive use like maps and youtube and so. But then again those aren’t guaranteed to effect something that happens randomly XD

Next to all this, way before my reboot problems started I noticed a glitch in the programming (glitch was so bad it messed up the coding on the homescreen and moved everything around forcing me to factory reset). It takes place when your phone sleeps and your headphone jack isn’t inserted properly. I also saw some weird Artifacts take place when using silent mode and vib mode. So yeah now the reboot research leads to the following.

people who have random reboots, have you made use of the headphone jack often? (3 times a week)
or have you made use of the silent mode/vib mode often? (once a day atleast)
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« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2010, 01:48:33 PM »

people who have random reboots, have you made use of the headphone jack often? (3 times a week)
or have you made use of the silent mode/vib mode often? (once a day atleast)

I use the headphones on a daily basis (multiple times every day actually), but don't use silent mode often. 
That being said, mine was in airplane mode when the first reboot happened.
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