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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2010, 02:15:47 PM »

my issue is a HUGE one i think........

got my desire yesterday, and eagerly unpacked it & whacked it on charge at 17:00.

whilst charging, i downloaded a few apps from the market, then left it on charge overnight.

it was taken off charge at 14:00 today. by 16:00 i noticed that the phone was very warm & by 17:00 it unit was very hot. bby the time i had returned home at 19:30 the battery had  COMPLETELY DIED and the handset was still unusually warm!!!!

now before everyone replies telling me that "i have too many apps running in the background" SURELY there is a problem with the battery?Huh

5.5hrs is beyond rubbish for the 1st time of using the phone, especially considering that the phone had over 20hrs initial charging!!!

what do u reckon guys???
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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2010, 04:58:31 PM »

20 hours of charging really don't make a difference.  When it's full, it'll stop charging.

As for apps running in the backgound, that COULD be the problem.  If an app keeps using the CPU, the phone can get quite hot and drain the battery in 2 or 3 hours indeed.

Let's start by defining "hot".  The normal operating temperature would be anywhere between 20 and 40C.  Coincidentally, 40C is the point where "hot" turns into "painfully hot" for most people.  So ... can you still hold the phone in your hand?  If you can, it's not really out of it's normal operating range.

If you can still hold it, do the following :

Let the phone charge first, unplug it and leave it alone for half an hour or so. 
Then look at the battery use (Settings -> About phone -> Battery -> Battery use) and see what's been using the battery.  (in the battery use screen, you can use the menu button and click "refresh" to update if the info seems incorrect)
If the phone has been on standby for a while, the first 2 should be "Cell standby" and "Phone idle".  If any of your apps is on the top of that list, get rid of it.  If not, get rid of ALL of them and see if that improves matters. (no worries, you can easily re-download them at the Market.  They'll still be listed in the "downloads" tab)

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I must add that the first few charges on the Desire won't last long.  Mine also only managed 6 or 7 hours at first, but in the first 2 weeks I really noticed an improvement.  Android apparently needs some time to get used to how you use the phone, and will adjust itself to optimize battery life as it learns more. 
I had to go through this twice myself.  Mine felt hot at first.  When using it intensively it can still get hot, up to the point where it feels slightly uncomfortable.  But never painfully hot.

@ esSBee : I removed the topic you made about this, since there's no point in discussing the same problem in 2 different topics.
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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2010, 05:06:06 PM »

many thanx XSaenen for your swift reply.
i will try the things you suggested & go from there.

stay blessed
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2010, 08:20:32 PM »

I went to carphone warehouse to get my HTC desire to which the bloke suggest that I rinsed the battery what was left of it then to put it on charge for 8 hours and to do this 5 times well he needs shooting because I done what he suggested I left my phone on charge last night at 10 got up for work this morning at 6 didn't use the phone till 7:10 used it to play music for 3hours at when I fished the battery was on red and I checked the temp it was a 39.1 I can see loads of people writing stuff about the battery comfortable or not it shouldn't be that warm the screen goes that hot I can't leave my finger on there for more than 3sec before it irritates me I'm very disappointed with this phone its speed is not what I expected very laggy slow having to press things 3 4 times sometimes to get a response having to faf around with sms alert putting a track in a surtain folder no no no not good. the loudness of the speaking is shocking and embarrasing and tinny everything seems an effort to do or a flipping task best feature the drop dwn task bar at the top part from that bit peed off with my choice of phone ill be sure to get rid of it soon I miss my blackberry bold but the app store was pants that's y the talk was all about androids are the upcoming big iPhone rival what aload of Tosh please let me know how u feel about ur HTC desire or what I have said. Thank you dp1273@hotmail.com
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« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2010, 08:54:39 PM »

hi dp.

well.........someone's not a happy bunny!!

i think you'll find, as with most phones, when you have a new product you are gonna get teething problems.

god knows apple has had 'em with EVERY release of a new generation (i should know as i endured their problems from the iphone 3g thru to 3gs).

they CERTAINLY never got their stuff right "1st time, everytime".

my point being this....htc/android WILL address their battery life/overheating issues. they have NO OPTION!!!

to be taken seriously by joe public they (htc/android) need to show us that their products are AT LEAST a match for iphone 4/app store, blackberry, samsung nokia/ovi store et al, otherwise we'll all just be left holding another handset on the long list of "iphone killers" that never made it.

i think that android have invested too much time, money & effort NOT to get this right, and htc have some fanatstic handsets on the market that easily outdo their rivals.

as peeved as i am about the battery/overheating issue, i won't be giving up on my desire just yet! i suppose a tenner for a spare battery will sort out my 1st problem. however, finding a mini fridge that fits comfortably in my trouser pocket to keep my phone cool may be rather more tasking lol..................
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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2010, 03:54:06 AM »

Hi esSBee no I admit I was not a happy chap and I took it out on my HTC lol thank-you for your advice and I will do as u suggested to wait and get a battery. Just does my head in because I know that HTC/androids have the potential to beat that iPhone its the 21st century I can't understand y there is still hardware and software problems with phones technology is moving very fast as we all no so I thank-you again and I really should have more patients but I'm human lol cheers
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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2010, 04:49:24 AM »

hi to everyone. i got my desire for a few days now. i see that it can become quite hot. actually the hottest temp that i read was 40.5 while phone was charging and a bit of browsing. the lowest i have seen as phone stays idle was 29 degrees. i have froyo on board. this is not a big deal because do not forget how hot is whwere you live. i live in Corfu _Greece an now the outside temp is about 38 degrees. as for the battery life i can say for sure that gat me more than a day.
 Previewsly i bought Galaxy S and after 2 days i returned it because it got to hot to handle and the battery life did not last half a day. the SGS was really laggy and mem leak was in every app. the building quality was shit and no matter how you hold the phone it sqeeicked plasticky and it is 100 euros more expensive.
so if i was you i would stick to the Desire and not change for an SGS
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« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2010, 03:53:30 PM »

In standby, after a restart (thus ensuring no user apps are running) the phone should be cold. If it is warm then either 1. the battery is faulty and self-discharging 2. there is a phone hardware fault or 3. a previously installed rogue app is starting at boot and using excessive processor time.

Remove the chance of 3. by uninstalling any downloaded apps (or doing a system reset) and 2. by changing the battery, maybe by swapping with a friends temporarily. HTH
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2010, 01:12:50 AM »

For Advanced Task Killer App........
Turn on Wi-Fi.  Tap 'Market,' from your large selection of icons.  When you get the choices, choose All Applications and tap Top free.  Advanced Task Killer is about the 8th one down the list.  Tap it and choose 'install.'
Keep the Advanced Task Killer icon on your main home page so that you can tap it regularly to be shown what is running in the background and then the ones with a green tick can be Killed.
It is very simple and very effective at saving battery power.
I too have the brightness icon on one of my home pages and keep the brightness level down to also save power.  HTH Wink


Hi All,
for advanced task killer, last time i read 1 report .Someone done a testing on the task killer, if he used it, the shorter battery life he has bcoz it killed the app and the app has to start again.(correct me if i'm wrong). this is the link http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cwhm6/i_stopped_using_a_task_killer_last_week_to_see_if/

I have 1 case, my gf desire, in singapore has to service because she didn't active roaming service. The phone is just turned on but do nth, before that, i killed all apps, off all connection like wifi, bluetooth n etc. But her hp is getting hotter n hotter, the battery drain faster than mine even i'm using mine to listen music and take picture. I still can not find out the reason even i tried to restart the hp.

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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2010, 09:42:05 AM »

That depends.  If your app uses the CPU even when in the background (which means it's a rubbish and badly designed app really), then a taskkiller might be a good idea.  In all other cases I'd advise NOT to use a takkiller at all.
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« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2011, 05:28:24 AM »

My phone got so hot I really thought it was going to catch fire!

The shop assistant said she had never heard of this fault before!

the phone is also dialling out on its own!

Again, the shop assistant said she had never heard of this before!
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« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2011, 11:04:46 PM »

Sounds like you have a runaway app on there.

Download "Watchdog Lite" from the market.  Once it's installed, open it and go through the setup. 
During the setup, set it to "conservative".  That way it'll only alert you if an app starts using resources when it really shouldn't.  Uninstall that app and find a replacement.  If you can't uninstall it, a factory reset might be necessary.
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« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2011, 07:34:15 PM »

I've had an HTC desire for nearly 18 months and am now on my 2nd one, the 1st having failed 3ce, each failure progressively worse with the 3rd one being a totally dead phone, like it had never lived.  The common factors with each failure were (a) outside the UK, and (b) warm weather, once in Paris during a hot Spring weekend and twice in Cape Town in the summer.  Didn't think that should be a problem because surely there are many locals who use HTC Desires without them all failing?

One thing which really heats it up is using GPS, like Google Navigate, SpeedView, Waze, CamerAlert, etc., especially when using the car charger as well.  Of course, if you don't use the car charger, the battery runs out very quickly, probably less than 2 hours, and if you do, it overheats in less than 2 hrs!  Not much use on anything like a longish trip.  Surely that can't be what HTC intended?

The CPU is an ARM which is known to run cool.  It has to be a phone design fault then.

Battery Monitor Widget gives a good graph of various battery measurements -- free (ad-supported).

I agree with a previous poster who said HTC/Android shoudn't be resting on their laurels on this issue -- but I'm going to need to see some or other authoritative review which says they've cracked it before I buy another HTC.

Anton
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« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2011, 11:23:20 AM »

I live in Cape Town and my Desire never gets warmer than 33 celcius. It generally operates between 25 & 35 degrees here. Winter or summer, not a single glitch.

HTC Desire, Redux 1.2, Oxygen HBOOT, S-OFF.
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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2011, 12:16:34 PM »

Ok my desire runs hot

Running on battery it avg 36.4C
On charge avg 40.1C
Just before it restart 47.9C
Battery voltage 3908Mv

The highest I've seen it is 50.1C with 4009mv

It's beginning to make me hate my desire as the battery lasts 3hrs max
Where do I go from here
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